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I thought Ken Robinson's video was interesting and entertaining. One of the points that I found interesting was that children are being taught to lose their creativity. I find this to be true because Iam a single mother and my son just turned two and he already knows the ABC's, and how to count to ten in english and spanish. I believed that I was trying to prepare him to be ahead and successful in the future, but maybe I might be hindering his creativity by focusing so much on his academic abilities.
I believe that Sir Ken Robinson's point of view on creativity being killed in schools is correct. It is true because only in college have I seen that you can take different types of classes for creativity. When I was in high school they didn't really care so much for creativity all they wanted was for you to get passing grades and move on. In my brothers school they have canceled all of the classes that has to do with art or music because they cannot afford it which means creativity is being pushed away and just education is being given more value.
I agree with Sir Ken Robinson on the point that he makes that the public education system kills the creative process. When the curriculum focuses entirely on standardized testing, there is no room in the day for teachers to address the specific needs of individual students. Because of this, many students fall behind. Whatever attempts tha can be made by educators to fuel their students' creativity are quashed by the child's sense of failure at not reaching the prescribed standard of learning.
I thought that sir Ken Robinson's point of view was absolutely correct. I feel that public schools do take away creativity from children. My little cousin is in high school and they are aout to cancel all art/music programs because they feel that they are not as important as reading and math. Which i personally think is unfair. Things in college are different mainly because most students pay for school so they get to choose exactly what it is that they want to take up including creativity classes like photography.
In a Roman Catholic elementary school were religion class was king and children were trained like little holy soldiers, there wasn’t any room to be creative. In fact, you could say it was discouraged. Unique thought was wrong and most questions were considered to be heathenism. I guess that’s why this is a subject close to my heart. Maybe that’s an extreme case but even in public schools there are budget cuts to creative classes. In core academic courses many times “thinking outside the box” is frowned upon and regurgitation of material is what is important. Ken Robinson presents these sad conditions in an entertaining almost stand up comedy format and gets his point across. I fully support art and humanities in our schools and at home. It’s unfortunate to grow up without them. We are not helping young children develop all their potential. That creative source whatever it may be needs to be tapped into and exercised just like their minds and bodies. If we want to help kids to become successful, happy and to realize their full potential—then this is a must.
I agree with Ken Robinson. Most schools don’t give students credit for their creativity. When a student is asked what he wants to be when he grows up they want to hear a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer and if a student says he wants to be a basketball player or a singer or a photographer they tell him that it’s not going to happen or that he won’t find a job on that. I think we have a lot of expectations and we feel we must reach them even though it’s not what we usually want. Not everyone is made for school but I’m pretty sure they must be good at something but since schools only concentrate on what they think its important then they never discover how creative they are. If a child is always painting or drawing then he should go to an art class, if a child is always mixing stuff we should encourage him and leave him because maybe he grows up to be a scientist. -Alexandra Vazquez
I agree with what Ken Robinson spoke about. School systems try to mold their students into what they want them to be. For example in high school when my math teacher taught a difficult formula and we came up with an easier way to find the answer, we were always told we wont get full credit unless we show they steps we were taught. Students have become so used to doing what their teachers expect from them that they dont see reason to make a suggestion. Its almost as if the school system programs us and whatever they say goes. People are entitled to their own opinions and shoud be able to share ideas and get feedback.
I really enjoyed watching this video. Ken Robinson's statement was very outstanding and absolutely correct. Nowadays, people are defied by the type of diplomas or titles they pursue. It seems like the school systems are not encouraging students to be creative anymore. Their main goal is to teach students what they believe will make them successful in the future. I strongly agree that our education is precious but so is freedom of mind. I know a good amount of people who are highly successful in life and do not pursue a degree nor a doctorate. This is nothing but a label.
I found that what Sir Ken Robinson was very important because it's true when we were younger we weren't afraid of failure but after going through the whole educational system, with the expectations that we are supposedly to meet or surpass has caused us to only hope and favor a likable outcome such as completion and doing it correct where as the opposite and failure is good too because it can make us better students but as Sir Ken Robinson said we are afraid of failure so much that we do extreme amount of work in hopes of getting a good grade and passing. This way of thought is very old and needs to be changed, when we were younger, we would not be embarrassed or ashamed by being messy or getting certain things wrong because we didn't have this De-facto attitude of having to be right all the time, every time.
I share the same opinion with Ken Robinson that creativity has a important role in our education. Through the fact that we all make mistakes we are able to come with something different and original, and we all know that for making mistakes we get penalized. This in a way is making us be afraid of making mistakes and pushes us away from being creative, makes us afraid to be creative thinking we did wrong and we would be penalized for that. Our education system needs a complete makeover in order to move the U.S. back on top of the charts. And by listening to people like Ken Robinson could make a difference.
His speech was interesting. In school, emphasis is put on math and language because those are fundamental skills that we will all need in order to live in this society. Meanwhile, creativity is also important because it is a source of much progress in the world and essentially what improves our lives in everyday level when combined with knowledge or information that we learn at school, not to mention it is a way of expressing oneself as well. The fact is that both math and creativity are equally important and I think balance is the key. Definitely, school should adopt more flexible education style so that children’s creativity and imagination would be encouraged. But at the same time, it is true that children can grow their creativity not only in their creativity classes at school but in many other occasions; during breaks, after school, at home or with neighbors in a community. So I feel that we should be aware of those possible alternatives and, especially when this bad economy cannot afford creativity classes, be positive and creative with what we have left to foster children's creativity, instead of relying solely on school for everything and blaming the system. -Keiko Matsuura
I think that Ken Robinson is a very smart man with exellent points about education. However, I'm sure that anything will change because of it and the art will continiue to take back seat. but his speech is inspiring enoughto make people want to try.
Ken Robinson has some very interesting comments regarding education and its affect on children. I agree with him, that education does prevent us from breaking boundaries using our creativity. Math and science are needed in everyday life, but what about the kids who have trouble understanding those concepts? Will they be put aside and forgotten about? Then you look around and realize society has changed its way of thinking, I mean look at all the sports men and women we idolize, the singers, dancers, actors and actresses as well. They've clearly made a living doing what they do best. So why hasn't our school curriculum changed? When there are budget cuts, why are arts and music the first to go? It's because there are still more doctors and lawyers than artists out there, and each one wants his or her kid to follow in their footsteps rather than take an interest in the arts. Sure those kids idolize their favorites and hey the parents will agree that their kids can have art or music as a hobby but when push comes to shove, they will make their kids study what they wish. Ken Robinson makes us want to take up a stand against stifling the creative talents in our society.
Ken Robinson brings up key points about creativity and its lack in the educational system. He argues that education doesn’t place much emphasis on creativity and that ignoring it can jeopardize the future of our children. Robinson talks about how “kids will take a chance. If they don’t know, they’ll have a go. They are not frightened of being wrong. Now I don’t mean to say being wrong is the same thing as being creative, but what we do know is that if you are not prepared to be wrong you will never come up with anything original” (05:28). Reflecting on Robinsons points, I agree with him. How does an educational system determine what will be important to the future of a child, and on what basis? It seems that in the educational system there is a “one size fits all” approach that is seemingly taking away from a child’s ability rather than contributing to it. Robinson stated that “our educational system is predicated on the idea of academic ability.” What is wrong with this approach is that there are children who may have interest in arts but because of requirements that need to be made by they school, there interests arent fully explored. Robinson then talks about a story about a young girl who was deemed to be sick in the head by her school but what she truly was was a dancer. She became rich and successful. Not everyone is built for what schools want to teach. On the contrary I believe there are students who would like to study an art rather than a whole bunch a subjects that are chosen by people who have no understanding for individual needs.
This video by Ken Robinson made me realize how school does kill creativity. As much as we are educated by what we learn in school, we also dont get to express our personal creativity and interest in school. we are all taught, math, english, science, and history, and some may be more interested in those subjects than others, but what about the people who arent interested in math and science and history? they still are pretty much forced to take it unless they want to face many "negative consequences in life". I feel that we arent aloud to express our creativity and our ways of seeing things while in school. Lots of schools do have electives for people who are interested in dance, or music, or art, but it seems like more people who are interested in math rather than art are the ones who are more successful. Why is this? Why are we judged on how smart we are rather than how creative we can be? School isnt for everyone, but does that mean the people who choose not to go to school have to suffer not being as excepted in society unlike the Harvard graduate because they arent as knowledgeable? Creativity should be embraced in schools rather than us be molded into learning certain subjects weather we like them or not.
I believe that Mr. Ken Robinson makes very important points about the mismanagement of the school subjects that are being thaught to our children and the priority that are being given to them. On my prespective, art is a special subject to my heart because I am a professional salsa dancer and I think that everybody has an art-related talent, maybe some people did not have a chance to discover it yet. I also believe that is very true what he says about how people see art as a hobbie and not as a way of living when he says that people are told not to do certain things because they would not make a living out of it, when we see cases all around the world of people, artists, singers, dancers, actors, etc. who in fact made a living out of their talents, so i think one should never cut the posibilities of a child and their drems by telling them that. Also something that Mr. Ken Robinson said that I never thought of but now has me thinking a lot, is when he talks about how to a certain point everybody will have a degree that all of them will be worthless because there will be an "academic inflation." I find this point particularly interesting because now everybody is so focused on becoming an important person in a science field, but what people don't realize is that at some point all of them will be the same and suddently the market will be so competitive they possibly would not be able to get a job in something that they worked so hard for
To start, Sir Ken Robinson's speech at the TED conference had to be the most enjoyable speech I've ever seen on the topic of education. His laid back, witty manner truly captivated me and had me thinking about education from a new perspective. Now to the crux of the speech. I share the belief that in the Western traditional educational model, creativity is stiffled in favor of rote memorization, jobs skills, and of course basic literacy. This is not to say that these are no important or effective. However, creativity can spark much better results. As Sir Robinson noted, "Creativity is as important as literacy". We cannot simply ignore the importance of creative classes such as art, music and drama in favor of mathematics and science. After all, not everyone desires to be a mathematician or scientist. As someone who is pursuing a career in higher education, specifically creative writing, I wholeheartedly concur with Sir Robinson's assessment. I believe that if we do not foster our children's creativity we cannot and will lead the innovation necessary for life in the 21st Century and beyond. As the number of college graduates increases, and academic inflation rises, we need creativity to differentiate ourselves as individual academics. Without an emphasis on creativity, we will be breeding a generation of college graduates prepared only to complete certain tasks but not the visionaries we need for the future. -Alan Ramos
I know I'm late posting a comment on Sir Ken Robinson's video but better late than never. Aside from everything he mentioned, I thought he was a very entertaining and engaging speaker. I don't know if it's just me but I found him to be very funny (I have a fetish for English sarcasm, which is probably why I like the British version of The Office than the American version of the show). Robinson seems to share a similar narrative on education as Paulo Freire. Freire main point was that children in educational systems do not learn how to think abstractly but instead learn to spit out, word for word, what they read when asked a question. Robinson is similar to Freire when he says that people that go to school become University professors so they can make their students memorize everything they did. No real learning ever takes place. My favorite point of the video was when Robinson mention the woman from the 1930's. They said she had a learning disability because she could not sit still. In today's society, they would have diagnosed her with ADHD and drugged her. That would have been one of many ways how educational systems cap creativity. I agree with everything that Robinson says that we need to nurture creativity than to limit it. -Rodrigo "The FatSpanishMan" Capurro
I thought Ken Robinson's video was interesting and entertaining. One of the points that I found interesting was that children are being taught to lose their creativity. I find this to be true because Iam a single mother and my son just turned two and he already knows the ABC's, and how to count to ten in english and spanish. I believed that I was trying to prepare him to be ahead and successful in the future, but maybe I might be hindering his creativity by focusing so much on his academic abilities.
ReplyDeleteI believe that Sir Ken Robinson's point of view on creativity being killed in schools is correct. It is true because only in college have I seen that you can take different types of classes for creativity. When I was in high school they didn't really care so much for creativity all they wanted was for you to get passing grades and move on. In my brothers school they have canceled all of the classes that has to do with art or music because they cannot afford it which means creativity is being pushed away and just education is being given more value.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Sir Ken Robinson on the point that he makes that the public education system kills the creative process. When the curriculum focuses entirely on standardized testing, there is no room in the day for teachers to address the specific needs of individual students. Because of this, many students fall behind. Whatever attempts tha can be made by educators to fuel their students' creativity are quashed by the child's sense of failure at not reaching the prescribed standard of learning.
ReplyDeleteI thought that sir Ken Robinson's point of view was absolutely correct. I feel that public schools do take away creativity from children. My little cousin is in high school and they are aout to cancel all art/music programs because they feel that they are not as important as reading and math. Which i personally think is unfair. Things in college are different mainly because most students pay for school so they get to choose exactly what it is that they want to take up including creativity classes like photography.
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ReplyDeleteIn a Roman Catholic elementary school were religion class was king and children were trained like little holy soldiers, there wasn’t any room to be creative. In fact, you could say it was discouraged. Unique thought was wrong and most questions were considered to be heathenism. I guess that’s why this is a subject close to my heart.
Maybe that’s an extreme case but even in public schools there are budget cuts to creative classes. In core academic courses many times “thinking outside the box” is frowned upon and regurgitation of material is what is important. Ken Robinson presents these sad conditions in an entertaining almost stand up comedy format and gets his point across.
I fully support art and humanities in our schools and at home. It’s unfortunate to grow up without them. We are not helping young children develop all their potential. That creative source whatever it may be needs to be tapped into and exercised just like their minds and bodies. If we want to help kids to become successful, happy and to realize their full potential—then this is a must.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Ken Robinson. Most schools don’t give students credit for their creativity. When a student is asked what he wants to be when he grows up they want to hear a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer and if a student says he wants to be a basketball player or a singer or a photographer they tell him that it’s not going to happen or that he won’t find a job on that. I think we have a lot of expectations and we feel we must reach them even though it’s not what we usually want. Not everyone is made for school but I’m pretty sure they must be good at something but since schools only concentrate on what they think its important then they never discover how creative they are. If a child is always painting or drawing then he should go to an art class, if a child is always mixing stuff we should encourage him and leave him because maybe he grows up to be a scientist.
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I agree with what Ken Robinson spoke about. School systems try to mold their students into what they want them to be. For example in high school when my math teacher taught a difficult formula and we came up with an easier way to find the answer, we were always told we wont get full credit unless we show they steps we were taught. Students have become so used to doing what their teachers expect from them that they dont see reason to make a suggestion. Its almost as if the school system programs us and whatever they say goes. People are entitled to their own opinions and shoud be able to share ideas and get feedback.
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ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed watching this video. Ken Robinson's statement was very outstanding and absolutely correct. Nowadays, people are defied by the type of diplomas or titles they pursue. It seems like the school systems are not encouraging students to be creative anymore. Their main goal is to teach students what they believe will make them successful in the future. I strongly agree that our education is precious but so is freedom of mind. I know a good amount of people who are highly successful in life and do not pursue a degree nor a doctorate. This is nothing but a label.
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I found that what Sir Ken Robinson was very important because it's true when we were younger we weren't afraid of failure but after going through the whole educational system, with the expectations that we are supposedly to meet or surpass has caused us to only hope and favor a likable outcome such as completion and doing it correct where as the opposite and failure is good too because it can make us better students but as Sir Ken Robinson said we are afraid of failure so much that we do extreme amount of work in hopes of getting a good grade and passing. This way of thought is very old and needs to be changed, when we were younger, we would not be embarrassed or ashamed by being messy or getting certain things wrong because we didn't have this De-facto attitude of having to be right all the time, every time.
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I share the same opinion with Ken Robinson that creativity has a important role in our education. Through the fact that we all make mistakes we are able to come with something different and original, and we all know that for making mistakes we get penalized. This in a way is making us be afraid of making mistakes and pushes us away from being creative, makes us afraid to be creative thinking we did wrong and we would be penalized for that. Our education system needs a complete makeover in order to move the U.S. back on top of the charts. And by listening to people like Ken Robinson could make a difference.
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His speech was interesting. In school, emphasis is put on math and language because those are fundamental skills that we will all need in order to live in this society. Meanwhile, creativity is also important because it is a source of much progress in the world and essentially what improves our lives in everyday level when combined with knowledge or information that we learn at school, not to mention it is a way of expressing oneself as well. The fact is that both math and creativity are equally important and I think balance is the key. Definitely, school should adopt more flexible education style so that children’s creativity and imagination would be encouraged. But at the same time, it is true that children can grow their creativity not only in their creativity classes at school but in many other occasions; during breaks, after school, at home or with neighbors in a community. So I feel that we should be aware of those possible alternatives and, especially when this bad economy cannot afford creativity classes, be positive and creative with what we have left to foster children's creativity, instead of relying solely on school for everything and blaming the system.
ReplyDelete-Keiko Matsuura
I think that Ken Robinson is a very smart man with exellent points about education. However, I'm sure that anything will change because of it and the art will continiue to take back seat. but his speech is inspiring enoughto make people want to try.
ReplyDeleteKen Robinson has some very interesting comments regarding education and its affect on children. I agree with him, that education does prevent us from breaking boundaries using our creativity. Math and science are needed in everyday life, but what about the kids who have trouble understanding those concepts? Will they be put aside and forgotten about? Then you look around and realize society has changed its way of thinking, I mean look at all the sports men and women we idolize, the singers, dancers, actors and actresses as well. They've clearly made a living doing what they do best. So why hasn't our school curriculum changed? When there are budget cuts, why are arts and music the first to go? It's because there are still more doctors and lawyers than artists out there, and each one wants his or her kid to follow in their footsteps rather than take an interest in the arts. Sure those kids idolize their favorites and hey the parents will agree that their kids can have art or music as a hobby but when push comes to shove, they will make their kids study what they wish. Ken Robinson makes us want to take up a stand against stifling the creative talents in our society.
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Ken Robinson brings up key points about creativity and its lack in the educational system. He argues that education doesn’t place much emphasis on creativity and that ignoring it can jeopardize the future of our children. Robinson talks about how “kids will take a chance. If they don’t know, they’ll have a go. They are not frightened of being wrong. Now I don’t mean to say being wrong is the same thing as being creative, but what we do know is that if you are not prepared to be wrong you will never come up with anything original” (05:28). Reflecting on Robinsons points, I agree with him. How does an educational system determine what will be important to the future of a child, and on what basis? It seems that in the educational system there is a “one size fits all” approach that is seemingly taking away from a child’s ability rather than contributing to it. Robinson stated that “our educational system is predicated on the idea of academic ability.” What is wrong with this approach is that there are children who may have interest in arts but because of requirements that need to be made by they school, there interests arent fully explored. Robinson then talks about a story about a young girl who was deemed to be sick in the head by her school but what she truly was was a dancer. She became rich and successful. Not everyone is built for what schools want to teach. On the contrary I believe there are students who would like to study an art rather than a whole bunch a subjects that are chosen by people who have no understanding for individual needs.
ReplyDeleteThis video by Ken Robinson made me realize how school does kill creativity. As much as we are educated by what we learn in school, we also dont get to express our personal creativity and interest in school. we are all taught, math, english, science, and history, and some may be more interested in those subjects than others, but what about the people who arent interested in math and science and history? they still are pretty much forced to take it unless they want to face many "negative consequences in life". I feel that we arent aloud to express our creativity and our ways of seeing things while in school. Lots of schools do have electives for people who are interested in dance, or music, or art, but it seems like more people who are interested in math rather than art are the ones who are more successful. Why is this? Why are we judged on how smart we are rather than how creative we can be? School isnt for everyone, but does that mean the people who choose not to go to school have to suffer not being as excepted in society unlike the Harvard graduate because they arent as knowledgeable? Creativity should be embraced in schools rather than us be molded into learning certain subjects weather we like them or not.
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I believe that Mr. Ken Robinson makes very important points about the mismanagement of the school subjects that are being thaught to our children and the priority that are being given to them. On my prespective, art is a special subject to my heart because I am a professional salsa dancer and I think that everybody has an art-related talent, maybe some people did not have a chance to discover it yet. I also believe that is very true what he says about how people see art as a hobbie and not as a way of living when he says that people are told not to do certain things because they would not make a living out of it, when we see cases all around the world of people, artists, singers, dancers, actors, etc. who in fact made a living out of their talents, so i think one should never cut the posibilities of a child and their drems by telling them that. Also something that Mr. Ken Robinson said that I never thought of but now has me thinking a lot, is when he talks about how to a certain point everybody will have a degree that all of them will be worthless because there will be an "academic inflation." I find this point particularly interesting because now everybody is so focused on becoming an important person in a science field, but what people don't realize is that at some point all of them will be the same and suddently the market will be so competitive they possibly would not be able to get a job in something that they worked so hard for
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To start, Sir Ken Robinson's speech at the TED conference had to be the most enjoyable speech I've ever seen on the topic of education. His laid back, witty manner truly captivated me and had me thinking about education from a new perspective. Now to the crux of the speech. I share the belief that in the Western traditional educational model, creativity is stiffled in favor of rote memorization, jobs skills, and of course basic literacy. This is not to say that these are no important or effective. However, creativity can spark much better results. As Sir Robinson noted, "Creativity is as important as literacy". We cannot simply ignore the importance of creative classes such as art, music and drama in favor of mathematics and science. After all, not everyone desires to be a mathematician or scientist. As someone who is pursuing a career in higher education, specifically creative writing, I wholeheartedly concur with Sir Robinson's assessment. I believe that if we do not foster our children's creativity we cannot and will lead the innovation necessary for life in the 21st Century and beyond. As the number of college graduates increases, and academic inflation rises, we need creativity to differentiate ourselves as individual academics. Without an emphasis on creativity, we will be breeding a generation of college graduates prepared only to complete certain tasks but not the visionaries we need for the future.
ReplyDelete-Alan Ramos
I know I'm late posting a comment on Sir Ken Robinson's video but better late than never. Aside from everything he mentioned, I thought he was a very entertaining and engaging speaker. I don't know if it's just me but I found him to be very funny (I have a fetish for English sarcasm, which is probably why I like the British version of The Office than the American version of the show). Robinson seems to share a similar narrative on education as Paulo Freire. Freire main point was that children in educational systems do not learn how to think abstractly but instead learn to spit out, word for word, what they read when asked a question. Robinson is similar to Freire when he says that people that go to school become University professors so they can make their students memorize everything they did. No real learning ever takes place. My favorite point of the video was when Robinson mention the woman from the 1930's. They said she had a learning disability because she could not sit still. In today's society, they would have diagnosed her with ADHD and drugged her. That would have been one of many ways how educational systems cap creativity. I agree with everything that Robinson says that we need to nurture creativity than to limit it.
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